WisCon’s Feminist Failfandom Brigade Gets My Locus April Fool’s Piece Taken Down

In an effort to prove that they’re not dour, humorless, thin-skinned avatars of political correctness with authoritarian tendencies, Wiscon’s Feminist failfandom brigade had my contribution to Locus Online’s April Fools Day festivities taken down. (Note that, under the transparent pseudonym of L. Ron Creepweans, I’ve participated in every Locus online April Fools Day since 2002.)

Locus forced Locus Online editor Mark Kelly to pull the piece only a few hours after it went up.

Thanks to the magic of Internet caches, you can still read it in its entirety:

And the text:

WisCon Makes Burqas Mandatory for All Attendees

Today the SF3 ruling committee for the Madison, Wisconsin-based feminist SF convention WisCon announced that starting this year, all attendees would be required to wear burqas.

“We were trying to think of what we could do to make Wiscon more inclusive,” said con chair Belle Gunness. “Suddenly, we realized that devout Muslims could easily be offended by the amount of sinful and wanton flesh on display at Wiscon. Therefore, starting with this year’s Wiscon, we’ve made burqas mandatory for all attendees. Allah Akbar!”

Both male and female members will be required to don the traditional black, face-covering, head-to-toe Islamic garb for all convention events. Gunness indicated that the convention would have substantial quantities of Burqas for rental to congoers, from Small to 5XL sizes. As an added benefit, she said that the new regulations would help eliminate “rampant lookism.”

Gunness said that guests would be required to wear the garb as well, “in the spirit of egalitarianism.”

Wiscon also announced that next year’s guest lineup would consist of J. K. Rowling, Stephen King, George R. R. Martin, Joss Whedon and Suzanne Collins. “At least as far as you know.”

For those tuning in for the first time, this was a direct jab (in humorous form) at WisCon’s previous decision to yank their Guest-of-Honor invitation to Elizabeth Moon for daring to voice (in the mildest possible form) politically incorrect thoughts about certain aspects of modern Islam.

How radical Islam became so sacred to radical feminists is a topic for another time, and I have hamburgers to cook. But it’s sad to think how a tiny, unimportant, radical fringe of disgruntled feminists (so aptly dubbed “Failfandom” by Steven Francis Murphy) have not only come to believe that their right not to be offended trumps the free speech of others, but that other people in the SF community have come to cave into their petulant demands. (Whatever happened to “The solution to free speech is more free speech?” It seems that fewer and fewer people on the left side of the political aisle believe that any more.)

But if there objective was to get this piece to disappear down the memory hole, I think they shall find that they are sadly mistaken…

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146 Responses to “WisCon’s Feminist Failfandom Brigade Gets My Locus April Fool’s Piece Taken Down”

  1. Windy Wilson says:

    As TkdKerry implies, TD of April 2 at 8:46 wins the internets this week. That IS the take-home quote.

    XtinaS, maybe you get yelled at because as you say, it’s possible to say the same thing about Christians, just as it is possible to say that very same thing about a great many groups of people, but you then need facts to support the statement. Otherwise it is as valid as saying,
    “And to those who dislike the jab at Buddhism/Quakers/Mennonites, all I can say is when Buddhists/Quakers/Mennonites stop murdering everyone (Including a lot of children) in the name of their religion we’ll stop calling it a religion of hate, rape, and murder.”
    If I said that except to expose a factual fallacy, I’d get yelled at, too.

  2. James May says:

    XtinaS, while I disagree that Muslims are “murdering everyone,” the idea Christians are engaging in anything like the numbers of politicized murder in the last 50 years as are Muslims is absurd. Produce numbers or be yelled at. You can’t produce such numbers because they simply do not exist. The number of terrorist attacks by Muslims globally in the last 10 years alone amounts to the thousands. Saying Iraq was Christians attacking Muslims is similarly absurd since there was no specific religious aspect to the war from the American side.

  3. p-dawg says:

    @Barbara: As your comment is offensive to me, I expect to be able to force you to retract it forthwith. If I have not the power to compel your speech, what on Earth gives you the right to compel anyone else’s? If offensive speech should always be silenced, then you need to shut your whore mouth.

  4. James May says:

    Michael J. “Orange Mike” Lowrey apparently doesn’t understand that WisCon’s feminists have come to occupy the same intellectual space as a neo-Nazi or KKK member. Tell me Michael, what are the Las Vegas odds that straight, white, men will come up on the short end of a moral stick 100% of the time? That’s how you measure a bigot, not by their clever rhetoric.

  5. Murphy says:

    I guess lawyers today wipe their ass with the concept of Natural Rights.

  6. Dave says:

    [Hey Escapist Readers: Are you going to read the actual story, or just this comment? – LP]

    Another blow against the misandrist harpies determined to wipe out the human race.

    Perhaps Science Fiction needs its own Marc Lepine memorial prize for the strongest blow struck. Onwards to victory.

  7. inkhat says:

    What exactly did the angry women-folk do? I don’t see any reference to their tyranical…whatever they did. Maybe Locus made you take it down because it wasn’t funny.

  8. Lee Reynolds says:

    “Whatever happened to ‘The solution to free speech is more free speech?’ It seems that fewer and fewer people on the left side of the political aisle believe that any more.”

    They only believed it when they thought the truth was on their side.

    They can’t win the argument, so they try to outlaw the discussion.

  9. Kagehi says:

    …the idea Christians are engaging in anything like the numbers of politicized murder in the last 50 years as are Muslims is absurd. Produce numbers or be yelled at.

    Sigh.. I see this so often it gets annoying. First off, you are talking about “direct” murders, but Christians are doing a lot of indirect murder, through things like the whole Catholic anti-contraception BS in Africa, and while “local” numbers of murdering Christians are not that high, its not exactly uncommon for some of the true crazies around the world to either be, or attribute their positions to be, derived from it. But, lets try something else, shall we, to show just how bloody absurd this is:

    “Skin Heads don’t kill people on the scale that the original Nazis, unlike blah blah blah other group!”

    It may even be true, but it doesn’t a) change their origin, b) absolve their belief system of the guilt of promoting the sort of thinking that led to the Holocaust in the first place, or c) change the fact that make such Neo-Nazi groups would like to see such things repeated, if they thought they could get by with it. All it does say is, “Most of them grew out of it.” Well, the reality is that such madness is almost always a small minority. When that minority has power, it can find followers willing to commit atrocities, and even convince a large number of those who otherwise wouldn’t, that they are “defending themselves” by supporting such acts, and/or helping, in some way, to make them happen, even if they are not directly involved. Such ideology feeds in tribalism. And, that is what religions #1 purpose is, to promote us vs. them views of the world. If you think otherwise, then just look at how many churches are at each other’s throats, the moment some common cause it not available, and they have to start dealing with the differences between two groups down the street from each other. Pretty much all of them, by definition, believe “we are right, and everyone else is wrong”. There isn’t much room for nuance there.

    But, purely statistically, places that are run by one single church, are worse off than those where they have to compete (like most places where the Catholics have near total control). The only exception to this rule is where there are only 2-3 competing, and the ones in charge are radicals, in which case you get war zones. Worse, it doesn’t matter if its the same religion, as long as its a different “branch” of the religion. It also doesn’t matter if its Islam, instead of Christianity, since all you have to do as look at Ireland’s mess, until recently, and the bombings, and terrorism that happened there all the time.

    For the most part, where religion isn’t as prominent, or where it has high levels of competition, the terrorists are outliers, who, while motivated by the same thinking as the rest, are *usually* loners, with their own made up ideas about who is out to get them personally, and not entire organizations, run by a charismatic leader, who is trying to convince them that half the planet wants to kill them, so they need to kill those people first. And, again, even then, we are talking about less than 1% of the population of those places that are convinced enough to actually be willing to fight what ever imaginary war they have been told about (as appose to the loner cases, where its more like 0.001%). The rest, only believe it, more or less, because the nutcases are running the government and there are not other sources of information.

    So.. Yeah, a few hundred years later, Christians have mellowed out, but only because its hard for a few hundred followers of wackos like Fred Phelps to compete with hundreds of millions of other people. The problem being – this **only** true because those hundreds of millions belong to some 10,000 competing versions of the religion, and Phelps has no real power. Reduce that to a few dozen competing versions, and make Phelps are “trusted leader”, or member of the government… and all bets are off as to how “peace loving” Christians really are, by comparison (or, just look at the near misses we had during McCarthism, and the Cold War, or the direct hit we had with GWB and his, “I just know they have WMD, so for various reasons, including god, but.. uh, I don’t mean this is a holy war, but you know.. god and stuff, we need to start a war!”

    Yeah, not buying the, “These people are, due to their war mongering religion, so much worse than Christians, who just don’t bother, for the most part, to read the nasty parts of their own war mongering, nearly identical, religious texts.” There are other reasons for the difference, other than a few silly passages tacked onto one, and not the other, and the delusional, “Well, Jesus said …, or would have, since I can’t seem to find it in the Bible at the moment!”, stuff people come up with to excuse why today mass murder would be wrong, but a few hundred years ago (or even, for some people, in the 40’s), it was A-OK, as per the same text.

  10. Lawrence Person says:

    As far as deaths directly attributable Islamic radicalism, my best estimate is that probably 50-100 are killed. Per week. The number could easily be twice as high, and that was before the Muslim brotherhood took over and started cleansing Copts, jihadi faction in the Syrian civil war, etc.

  11. James May says:

    Kagehi, that is textbook gibberish. I recommend letting the law and the current calendar save you from such semantic lunacy. Woulda, coulda, shoulda may be some bizarre cult in your head but trust me, it is weird and indefensible in a court.

  12. ohplease says:

    Let’s review what actually happened:

    1. A bunch of rabid bigots and right wing extremists protested an Islamic cultural center in New York City, falsely calling it a “Ground Zero Mosque”. This was a lie as it wasn’t at or near ground zero and it wasn’t a mosque. Among the leaders of this protest were white supremacists who falsely claimed it was a “victory memorial”.

    2. Elizabeth Moon wrote an essay which all but openly defending this protest. She repeated the right wing lie, calling it “a memorial center at/near the site of the 9/11 attack” and called this bad citizenship by Muslims: “I feel that I personally (and many others) lean over backwards to put up with these things, to let Muslims believe stuff that unfits them for citizenship, on the grounds of their personal freedom.” She tried to CYA by mentioning other “bad citizens” but her meaning and embrace of falsehoods by white supremacists was clear.

    3. Rather than explian why she was repeating a falsehood circulated by right wing extremists and white supremacists, Moon doubled down. Due to the uproar, she was asked not to speak at Wiscon.

    4. You repeatedly defend Moon explicitly in terms of religious bigotry. You make this clear when you explicitly reject her other examples of “bad citizens”, arguing only Muslms and leftists are bad.

    5. You don’t understand the 1st Amendment.
    Things which are not against the 1st Amendment:
    -Being criticized for repeating bigoted falsehoods.
    -Being asked not to speak because the bigoted falsehoods have alienated paying customers.
    -Being criticized for making an unfunny joke which explicitly references previous right wing ranting.
    -Having this joke removed from a website where one is a guest.

    The first amendment does not exempt you from the consequences of speaking.

    Things which are against the 1st Amendment: Having the government block the construction of a religious community center on private property, which is what the bigots attempted to do.

  13. James May says:

    According to a lawsuit filed against Feisal Abdul Rauf, he fleeced the Malaysian gov’t for 3 million donated for the mosque. Rauf was born in Kuwait – try building a church anywhere in the country. Malaysia has a racially discriminatory law against Chinese and Indian minorities called “Bumiputera.” Please don’t tell us how moral these bigots are or about their rights. I have as much interest in their rights as they have in mine. If they respected a Bill of Rights they’d have them. They don’t. And ask yourself how Malaysia would respond if we funded church building there. They’d scream bloody murder.

  14. Borepatch says:

    Epic trolling, Lawrence. Simply epic.

    Congrats!

  15. @James May: It’s not a mosque. Mosques have rather strict requirements, and Park51 was never designed to fulfill those requirements. As for the money funneled to it, why does it matter? Why do you care? Does it actually make any difference?

    But let me address the more important part of what you said: “I have as much interest in their rights as they have in mine.”

    Allow me to quote Evelyn Beatrice Hall: “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” It is our business to defend people’s rights, even those who we disagree with. If we deny rights to people over their views, we betray our principles.

    So Malaysia doesn’t let Christians build churches. Do we respond by not letting Muslims build churches? Of course not. So Malaysia has racist laws. Do we respond by enacting our own racist laws? Of course not. So countries all over the world restrict people’s freedoms. Do we then restrict people’s freedoms in our own land? No, we do not.

    The area set aside for Park51 is private property, and people should have a right to make full use their own property. They may believe all kinds of abhorrent things, but that’s their right. So what if it upsets a lot of people? They weren’t actually making any sort of public disturbance. I can play whatever music I want, so long as I don’t play it too loud, and the Muslims can do whatever they want in property they own, as long as they keep it within their property.

    Elizabeth Moon’s arguments about “responsibilities of citizenship in a non-Muslim country” are invalid. Their responsibilities are to pay their taxes and let everyone else enjoy the use of their private property. Park51 did not violate either of those rules. No one had any right to ask them to do any more. Not Elizabeth Moon, not Newt Gingrich, not you.

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  17. Synova says:

    For people who care so much about offense and feelings, why is it impossible to understand that people *felt* like the “ground zero mosque” was an insult? Those feelings were genuine. The offense was sincerely felt.

    That’s supposed to matter, right?

    And understanding how other people feel is what is supposed to make you a good person, right?

    If I’m supposed to try not to offend people, and you’re supposed to try to not offend people, why aren’t Muslims supposed to try not to offend people? That doesn’t apply to them? It’s not reasonable to say “too soon” considering a population that experienced the horror of 9-11 directly?

    Most people only asked that it be built just a bit farther away. Is that an unreasonable request from people who are mourning?

    The ladies of WisCon are guilty of callous disregard for the feelings of living, breathing, and bleeding people. Because that’s what you do when you elevate “safety” and you elevate an ideal of crusading against offensive ideas and thoughts. Sides no longer HAVE two sides. You chose, and then you enforce your favorite.

    Mourning New Yorkers become bigots and you (yes, you) get your moral authority and self-righteousness.

    Win-win.

  18. […] who has posted a copy of the post on his blog, seems to have decided to embrace the whole thing, and has indulged in a bit of traffic statistic […]

  19. James Stephenson says:

    Synova,

    Perfect summing up. Perfect.

  20. houseboatonstyx says:

    Most people only asked that it be built just a bit farther away.

    How much farther? The ONLY person who gave a figure (5 blocks iirc) was Donald Trump. The other critics, when asked “How much farther”, said things like “In Baghdad.”

  21. Synova says:

    And again… the feelings were genuine. The 9-11 terrorists may not have been representing their religion (and Bush constantly went out of his way to frame it all as not being about Islam) but those mass murderers *said* they were representing their religion. And the parties here and there on the Arab “street” didn’t help either. People *felt* like building the center so close to ground zero was deliberately rubbing salt in new wounds.

    Most thinking people can empathize with that.

    Other people use it as an opportunity to establish their moral superiority. In fact, they were so interested in their own moral superiority that they refused to even allow diversity of opinion over the issue. It wasn’t that “I disagree with you” it was “you are a hateful bigot and we won’t allow you to pollute our air.”

    The thing about shame cultures is they only work *inside* the shame culture. Scalzi (for example) can be shamed because he’s inside that culture and doesn’t want to be expelled. WisCon hoped to shame Moon. That she refused to be shamed is called “doubling down” but it’s really just refusing to be punished and forced into line by a dominating culture that uses this type of controlling methods. This is why GLBT groups spend time shaming Glee (of all absurdities) because shame is about power and power only works on those who fear being expelled.

    And *that* is why our home-grown shame cultures never attack Islam for the oppression of women and gays. What would be the point? You can’t exercise power over groups/people that you have no power over.

  22. […] first by an Arab-American, for that matter. (And this is when being Muslim in SF is still cause for a lot of nasty sniping, to put it mildly). Ken Liu, a Chinese-American author doing amazing work, amongst others, in […]

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  24. I think the conversation has strayed a bit.

    This isn’t an argument about Islam (good/bad) it’s an argument about free expression.

    In this case, Mr. Person created a clever, biting spoof piece for April Fools, in which he took aim at WisCon’s moral and intellectual cowardice in allowing Elizabeth Moon to be kicked to the curb by a noisy batch of people who have appointed themselves WisCon’s Guardians of Correctness. And while it’s all well and good for them to police their own event—idiotic as that policing was—to then reach outside the event and begin policing a major genre news publication . . . well, what can you say about that?

    What Locus should have done is stood its ground. Maybe offered the plaintiffs equal space for a rejoinder? What Locus did was cave to the Correctors and yank the piece. Hence the Correctors are emboldened and empowered. They will seek ever-larger and more high-profile targets. Once you gift this mentality with the notion that it has control . . . well, history’s graveyard is filled with the bones of victims of such controllers. Because they see themselves as 100% morally right, and authorized by their Rightness (capital R) to go out into the world and punish, ban, restrict, or otherwise deny others. These are the same folk who would shriek bloody murder if ever one of them had a piece removed from a publication because of complaints. Ergo: “Expression for me, but not for thee.”

    Again, Science Fiction (as a field) likes to pretend that it’s dangerous. This is a largely toothless claim, and I spent a good deal of time yammering about that over on my blog. Any genre that worries itself into knots over who it may offend—as standard operating procedure—is not a genre that can claim the ‘dangerous’ label anymore. Certainly WisCon has lost all credibility as a convention that supports women. WisCon is a convention that only supports certain women who hew to a certain set of political guidelines that are taken as tacit by the femiSMOFs who run the event. The rest of us—regardless of gender—are not invited. Which, again, is fine. Nobody has to attend WisCon.

    But when the moral police and general denizens of WisCon make it their business to reach outside their own walls and begin meddling with the affairs of the field as a whole . . . problem! Significant, disturbing problem!

  25. Tice With A J, I have loved that quote all my life. It’s why I made that argument at the time: Moon was wrong about muslims, people who want to build religious centers (or even real mosques!) near strip clubs in the USA should be able to, and WisCon, like Locus, was wrong to offer the opportunity to speak, then retract it.

    Brad, regarding the field, while people were much freer to disagree in the past, don’t over-romanticize what it was compared with what it is. William Sanders noted, “You have to remember, the SF writing community is mostly a lot of very nice people who have led very sheltered lives. They’re very easily shocked. It’s always amazed me that so many of these people who write all this stuff about strange worlds and fantastic adventures are such conventional, boring types in person. As Ajay Budrys once said to me, ‘They are a cautious and conservative lot, these probers on Man’s ultimate frontier. A trail of sheepshit marks their passing.’”

  26. That’s a great quote from Budrys. Entirely apt. Thanks for posting it.

  27. David K. M. Klaus says:

    You had the privilege to write one of the annual Locus April Fool pages, and have for several years.

    This year you chose to use that privilege to rake up the coal of a dead incident back into roaring flame.

    Mr. Kelly and the other staff of Locus had it pointed out to them that the piece went past the level of good fun and into that of offensiveness based on a political p.o.v. that, whether true or not, considers itself persecuted and was aimed at a group holding another political view which also considers itself persecuted, whether true or not. Now there is screaming and name-calling and further insulting material being expressed by both groups. Good job of “let’s you and him fight.”

    You were free to write what you wanted on the Locus website because you had been well-behaved before, I presume. However, this year instead you did the written equivalent of throwing a candy bar into the swimming pool so you could point and laugh at the people trying to get out of the pool.

    (I’m being generous here by using the candy-bar in the metaphor. Your action possibly could be taken as the written equivalent of actually throwing fecal matter into the pool, but I would prefer to presume not.)

    After reader complaints, Locus decided to pull the piece, not having themselves wished to be raking a dead fire back into flame.

    Now you crow that you’ve been persecuted by a political mob and get to grin at your friends about how you’ve stirred up so much shit.

    The matter was over for WisCon. The matter was over for Elizabeth Moon. Nobody was yelling at anybody else. Then you came along.

    You misused your editorial privilege at Locus to deliberately provoke some people into emotional pain. Locus, as a responsible publisher, had the responsibility of either agreeing with it, regardless of its noxiousness, or pulling the piece and apologizing both for. letting themselves be taken in by you and for your public bad manners. Now, unless there has been another change, the funny tradition is canceled, to the detriment of everyone who enjoyed it as a good joke.

    What it seems that you and your most vocal friends cannot see is that your piece wasn’t taken down for its politics, but for its betrayal of faith that you would be a responsible human being and not deliberately act out in an ill-mannered way.

    Again, it wasn’t your politics or persecution, it’s that you were *rude* to the readership and to Locus and *abusive* of your privilege.

    Nobody is trying to censor you here on your own weblog, on which you are free to write whatever you wish. It was co-opting another weblog’s audience to bring a dead issue back to flaming heat, without asking the other weblog whether they wanted to be used for that co-opting.

    To sum up, people aren’t yelling at you to censor you in the name of “political correctness. They’re yelling at you because you’re a rude little son who deserves a spanking for acting out.

  28. Murphy says:

    I guess corporal punishment has returned to the ranks of the Liberals. Nice.

    They call that hypocrisy last I checked.

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  30. James May says:

    People should understand one simple fact: a principle doesn’t know your skin color or gender any more than your cat does.

    This is where out PC liberals have gone terribly wrong. It is why racial bigots can be nominated for Nebulas at the same time the call out the SF community as clueless xenophobes and racists ignorant of diversity.

    Meanwhile, those bigots say nothing about these awards I cannot win:

    The Hurston Wright Foundation
    Black Writers Alliance Award
    Celebration of Black Writing
    Black Publishers & Writers Awards
    New Voices Award
    The Dickerson-Du Bois Undergraduate Award
    BCALA Literary Award
    Asian American Literature Award
    Coretta Scott King Book Awards
    The Unpublished Writers Award
    Black Mystery Writers Awards
    National Council for Black Studies Writing Award
    AAMBC Literary Awards

    Those are literary awards I can never win because I am white. They are not cultural or national awards, but racial. I want to know whether they receive state or federal funding and what the DOJ and professional diversity groups are doing to introduce diversity into such awards.

    I reject Tice’s assertion that I am a mere airport baggage handler in a country I built and that people who can build no such thing, and in fact despise me, have an equal right to come in after all the dying and bleeding has been done, the living room redesigned, and kick me and my legacy aside hiding behind a Constitution they in no way believe in. To suggest I am the only one with responsibility in such matters or that they should be divvied up according to ethnicity is absurd. If you want to be treated as one of the community – act like it. A passport is not a philosophy or a reward, and law is not a white sheet to hide behind.

  31. SinEater says:

    Kagehi:
    I have never before seen so many words used to say absolutely nothing.
    Seriously. Can you make a direct statement?

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  33. RMK says:

    Why anyone is surprised by the WisCon outrage is beyond me. I simply wonder why no one seems to be critical of Locus for pulling the piece under such outrage.

  34. Suburbanbanshee says:

    Only WisCon could be so humorless that they’d make an April’s Fool’s joke funnier for the rest of us.

    Btw, where did the WisCon folks go to college?

    Burqa-ley.

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  37. raito says:

    Too close to the truth. Living in Madison, and participating in WisCon for several years as a young man was enough to make me leave fandom entirely.

  38. kent says:

    You misused your editorial privilege at Locus to deliberately provoke some people into emotional pain.

    I don’t believe I’ve ever seen so much sand packed so solidly into a single vagina.

  39. Simon Tarses says:

    @Suburbanbanshee: I’d love to see how you’d respond if I did a similar post ridiculing something you find sacred, like, say, 9/11?

    It’s high time for Americans to get over this and stop using it to justify American imperialism and exceptionalism, as well as racism, homophobia, and sexism.

  40. x says:

    Sorry for directing people’s attention to a comment & not your article, it’s just the comment in question had similar wording to a phrase in a threat made against a certain “feminist icon” recently (that is being blamed on those “darn misogynist gamers”), and it was potentially of interest to people trying to find the true culprit :(

    Your article does provide some interesting background to the behaviours of the type of people we’re having to deal with in the gaming community though too, so it was a good read :)

  41. CarbonelCarbonelle says:

    Simon writes: “I’d love to see how you’d respond if I did a similar post ridiculing something you find sacred, like 9/11

    Sacred? WisCon is Sacred now? Holy flaming carp-weasels Batman, we’ve got a live one!

    How about i/o “sacred” we make that merely “kind of important to you” so we can address the lunacy of comparing the murder of 3000 innocents to a science fiction convention.

    I swear, you can’t parody SJWs. I bet the real reason Locus yanked the piece was that they accidentally scooped the WisCon con committee’s press release.

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  44. Simon Tarses says:

    To reiterate what David K. M. Klaus, ohplease, and myself have said (and yes, I promise that this is the last time I post on this topic), something about what freedom of speech actually means:

    As for you, CarbonelCarbonelle…’nuff said.

  45. Lefty Throckmorton says:

    Looks like the periods of the FemFails have synchronised.

    Looks like the reading comprehension of the neocon fans such as you has diminished, AC1. But what else is new with people like you?

  46. Lefty Throckmorton says:

    I don’t believe I’ve ever seen so much sand packed so solidly into a single vagina.

    I’ve never seen so much stupidity issuing from the mouth of one neocon such as you, kent.

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