Bret Weinstein Talks Elon Musk On Dave Rubin: Fighting Censorship And The Lone Wolf Problem

This is a very interesting clip of Dave Rubin interviewing the always-interesting Bret Weinstein on a variety of intertwined topics.

The main focus of this segment is a mystery: Why did Musk block Weinstein on Twitter right after spending a fair amount of time agreeing with him on the need to fight censorship, but they touch on a whole lot of interesting ideas in the process.

  • DR:

    That’s why I talk about Elon as much as I do on the show. Because I don’t I think if you would have said to Elon 10 years ago: “You’d own Twitter, you’d be in this free speech fight, you’d have, you know, the ADL calling you an anti-semite,” like the list of craziness that everyone now knows. I think he’d say “What are you talking about? That’s completely insane. I’m trying to get us to Mars. I’m building this cool car, blah blah blah.” But he, I think, is sort of the avatar for what you’re talking about there, the brave person that doesn’t know exactly what they’re going towards, something like that. But then he’s like “I better buy this freaking Twitter thing because I see all the danger.”

  • BW:

    I think you’re right about Elon. I don’t know for sure that you are, but I think you’re right about what he’s trying to do, and how he ended up there, and how it would surprise him. I had a meeting with him. I flew to San Francisco, and I had a meeting with him, and he said it had been a very good meeting, and he wanted to meet again. A series of events unfolded over the course of the next 24 hours. My Twitter account got commandeered. Maybe that was organic, maybe it wasn’t. I don’t think—I know Elon had nothing to do with it. But anyway, I reached out to him, and tried to alert him to this, because I was concerned that he and I had private communications, and he didn’t, want you know… I don’t think there was anything compromising in them, but he didn’t want them in the world, and he needed to know that this…and he ended up, uh, blocking me after having this meeting, and I remain blocked.

    Curious.

  • BW:

    Now, the reason I raise it is because there’s a defect in all of those players that I mentioned who have all been shoved onto the same team, right? They have some incredible strengths, and I have to tell you um there’s been a lot of pain inflicted on us for standing up. But the camaraderie, the discovery of people, people who were up to the challenge, their coming together as a coalition, has been extremely rewarding and dwarfs any suffering that might have come along with this.

  • DR: “Yeah, it sounds kind of corny, but I mean that those three days or whatever it was we had at ARC [Alliance for Responsible Citizenship] to see everybody together again, and all be, like, we’re still alive we’re still here it’s powerful.”
  • BW: “The problem is, that all of those people who have the characteristics that I listed, that are courageous, that are insightful, and that have integrity, they tend they have a lot of Lone wolfess in them. Which means that they have a defect they’re terrible at confederating.”
  • BW: “I see him as very strategically clever, but I don’t think he’s any good at confederating, either. And my little story where he blocked me, it’s like, look, hey Elon, there aren’t that many people out here trying to advance the ball who have something um meaningful to contribute to the team. We have to stop tripping over each other.”
  • BW: “What happened was…I believe that Dark Horse [podcast] that [wife] Heather [Heying] and I [do] have faced a whole bunch of suppression that that has not yet shown up anywhere.”
  • BW: “We are demonetized to this day. YouTube demonetized us. I believe they were going to throw us off. Joe Rogan held an emergency podcast, and you know YouTube hasn’t messed with us since. But they didn’t remonetize. More than half our income in a one fell swoop. And we know that decision happened in the C-suite at Google.”
  • Weinstein believes that the real push to demonetize and silence him came when he started to examine alternatives to the consensus Flu Manchu narrative.

    When we started to take it out of the realm of “Here’s a bunch of stuff you can’t understand and leave it to the virologists and the epidemiologists and the public health authorities” and the answer was “No, actually you can understand it and some of what you’re being told isn’t right.” Right when we started to do that and then we started to interact with people like Robert Malone and Peter McCullough, Pierre Kory, and then those people went on to affect a huge audience, largely on Joe Rogan’s program. That changed the narrative, and so I think something has meddled with us in a particular, in a unique way, because frankly there weren’t that many people who could bridge the scientific to public.

  • Rubin brings the subject back to Musk. BW: “You talked to Elon about the things he was discovering inside of the crime scene that he bought. And one of the things that he discovered was that there were lots of mechanisms that caused things to be deboosted that weren’t labeled as such. And so he kept finding more and more levels and I was trying to convey to him, ‘Look, I think you will find something special when you figure out what happened to us.'”
  • When Musk blocked him over these, he said “Stop spamming me!”
  • DR: “What you’re really saying, in essence, is that you were a little too ahead of something in the game at which the speed is played that he may not want to be involved in that just yet.”
  • BW: “On Dark Horse we have the phrase ‘Zero is a special number.’ What that means is if you can turn a single social media platform, a single newspaper, or a single university so that it functions towards its stated goal, you actually stand a chance of fixing the, system because if there’s one social media platform on which you’re treated like an adult and you can exchange ideas freely and discuss them back and forth, nobody’s going to want to be on the ones in which you’re treated like a child.” I would like to think he’s right here, but I see an awful lot of people on the left acting as though the only good thing about the pre-Musk Twitter was the ability to banish users for WrongThink.
  • It’s an interesting conversation with a lot to chew on. Just why is their such a strong nexus between Social Justice and wanting to force conformity on Coronavirus?

    But I also wonder: Just how much of a remnant is there on the left in favor of free speech? Are are any significant advocates for it under the age of, say, 50?

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    2 Responses to “Bret Weinstein Talks Elon Musk On Dave Rubin: Fighting Censorship And The Lone Wolf Problem”

    1. Kirk says:

      Historically, the left has only been in favor of free speech so long as they’re out of power. Once in, they want full control over everything, all the time.

      No matter what they say about it, the first thing they do once they’re allowed into power is end free speech forever. Or, until someone kicks in the door and ends them.

      I can’t think of a single example, anywhere in history, where the left hasn’t followed this path.

    2. Alex says:

      Re “Robert Malone”

      Malone (like Dr. Desmet etc) is an establishment shill, everyone can see that readily just read the info at these urls:

      https://archive.ph/or6e2
      https://archive.org/details/dr.-robert-malone-dark-vaccine-wizard
      https://archive.vn/BJlNd
      https://archive.vn/eisHt
      https://archive.ph/Z4EJt
      https://archive.ph/BatXh
      https://archive.ph/qTn3e
      https://rumble.com/v2fbyxo-home-malone-with-george-webb.html
      https://archive.ph/e1yMe
      https://archive.ph/lyeua
      https://archive.is/JXtUy
      https://rumble.com/v1a76jp-how-controlled-opposition-works.html
      https://karenkingston.substack.com/p/i-didnt-realize-asking-for-help-was/
      https://archive.ph/wk7t3
      https://archive.ph/XggTD
      https://archive.md/4hhpc
      https://archive.ph/zxL37

      “We’ll know our Disinformation Program is complete when everything the American public [and global public] believes is false.” —William Casey, a former CIA director=a leading psychopathic criminal of the genocidal US regime

      With a “sweet” slick establishment shill like Malone one must always ask when exposed to his “persuasive” talks when he defends himself against truthful allegations about him by others what he deliberate omits to tell you about himself so that he always looks like a good guy. Example, Malone FABRICATES slanderous statements about a number of people in the “alternative health movement” he’s been attacking (https://archive.ph/aBpb5 & https://archive.ph/0NE86).

      Malone supposedly “suddenly saw the light” (meaning he was stupid and conscienceless all his former professional life spanning 3 decades, see his upcoming quote below, yet he’s now the entitled “enlightened” smart person with a conscience everyone should trust and follow — what utter absurdity, it’s psychopaths who sell you and dumb people who buy such nonsense, see ‘pink elephants’ url below) and entered the public space out of nowhere, and then SELFISHLY presents HIMSELF as a “victim” of those ruling “bad guys” and wants you to believe he’s a saint, and on your side as he ALLEGEDLY overnight grew a conscience. He like Desmet are propagandizing distorted narratives of the whole truth — falsehoods and lies, essentially.

      Yet Malone has been serving the criminal (medical-biopharmaceutical-industrial-military-intelligence) establishment for decades promoting their sick and destructive interests and agendas (https://archive.ph/5RVCt & https://rumble.com/v2fbyxo-home-malone-with-george-webb.html & https://archive.md/4hhpc).

      As an example, he sues a doctor, Peter Breggin, M.D., who had worked FOR DECADES TO REVEAL corruptions and frauds of the allopathic governmental-medical establishments while Malone has worked FOR DECADES TO SERVE the interests of the very same criminal establishment. Guess whom you should trust? Mmm, that’s a tough one to figure out…

      Malone himself stated it, including with his lie of having done “ethical vaccine development” which is an oxymoron because all official vaccine are made by the allopathic medial mafia business (and Malone’s own NON-ethical vaccine research proves it’s a lie, see further below): “I have deep understanding of government affairs and proper, ethical vaccine development as well as development of other drugs and biologicals. It was my job and my business for decades. I destroyed that business that I had built up over 30 years to alert the world to what was going on.” (https://archive.ph/2StRG)

      He knew in 2019 (!!) that the “Spike Protein” is highly toxic yet he did nothing to prevent its inclusion in Covid jabs (https://rumble.com/v22nbhy-the-curious-case-of-dr.-robert-malone.html and https://archive.is/lwDYr) which is a form of lying by omission and worse … yet he is suing all sorts of people (https://archive.vn/eisHt and https://archive.ph/Z4EJt and https://archive.ph/BatXh & https://www.americaoutloud.news/dr-breggin-speaks-out-about-dr-malones-25-million-dollar-lawsuit)!) for slandering him (when that “slander” is evidently only real truths about him) and, topping it off, he said in one of his written pieces that he holds the health truth movement up to a higher standard. What a complete hypocrite, deceiver, and psychopath! From being silent and inert, from knowingly hiding life-saving information, to wanting to be the deserving self-entitled trustworthy leader in the truth movement.

      Since he knew at least since 2019 that the “Spike Protein” is highly toxic we can be certain that his publicized events of him getting a Covid “vaccine and a booster are fraudulent staged fake events. Him deceiving the public … you.

      Malone also claimed about his ALLEGED Covid jabs that “the second shot almost did me in. As in I almost died.” Yet as someone pointed out… “Dr. Robert Malone says he was almost killed by the Moderna Experimental Transfections in Spring, 2021. His subsequent rhetorical output and emotional affect seemed incongruent with that harm.” Are you still asleep about the fact that he’s a liar and a fraud?

      Eg, fraudster Malone is a co-developer of a toxic covid vaccine that “resulted in ACUTE LUNG INJURY in animal studies and introduce Aluminum (neurotoxin) directly into human cells” (https://archive.ph/5M2kn). Now, suddenly, he wants you to believe he’s a saint, and on your side. NOT unlike “expert Doctor” Bill Gates, the psychopathic entrepreneur with huge vaccine business interests, who has been elevated, and propagandized, by “the science” leaders of the world to the status of “world’s top medical doctor” who’s fully entitled to tell everyone to get toxic Covid “vaccines” during the onset of this scamdemic. That last fact alone should totally convince you that the world is controlled by psychopaths instead of sane people.

      “All experts serve the state and the media and only in that way do they achieve their status. Every expert follows his master, for all former possibilities for independence have been gradually reduced to nil by present society’s mode of organization. The most useful expert, of course, is the one who can lie. With their different motives, those who need experts are falsifiers and fools. Whenever individuals lose the capacity to see things for themselves, the expert is there to offer an absolute reassurance.” —Guy Debord

      In one of Malone’s “expert” articles (“Groupthink: we are all victims”) his public misdirection, his disinformation is already evident in the title. His dissemination of the total lie of the public as “innocent victims” appeals of course to the public and their general dishonesty (which is a major reason he’s so liked and promoted everywhere as it “washes him clean and innocent” and as he panders to their selfish self-delusions) but it is a complete distortion of reality:

      Who do you think goes to war and does the killing (mindless immoral NON-innocent soldiers)?

      Who do you think researches, works on, develops, and designs the mountain of toxic destructive exploitive technologies of human civilization (mindless immoral NON-innocent scientists)?

      Who do you think murders and maims a massive amount of people with toxic Covid shots (mindless immoral NON-innocent doctors and nurses)?

      Who do you think wears useless Covid masks (or puts them on their kids) (mindless immoral NON-innocent people)?

      Who do you think trusts, follows, obeys, votes for, and does the dirty work for the governing authorities (mindless immoral NON-innocent people)?

      And on and on… with the mostly willful activities, or inactivities, of the majority of mindless immoral NON-innocent self-entitled “good” people — the 90-95% of the herd.

      Yes, the ruling authorities control brainwash you. BUT … the public does their bidding DESPITE that people know politicians lie to them all the time. There are TWO human pink elephants in the room … and they are MARRIED and NEITHER is innocent at all …. http://www.CovidTruthBeKnown.com (or https://www.rolf-hefti.com/covid-19-coronavirus.html)

      “By employing Malone as a soft ‘whistleblower,’ the powers that be are using him to set an artificial limit as to what is an acceptable level of dissent or opposition to their obvious mainstream lies and deception. When they censor him, then all of the truthers go running into his arms for comfort. They do this because they conclude that if he’s being censored, then he must be telling the truth…. But he doesn’t represent the true opposition (us) — he’s an insane demon who thinks vaccines save lives and has spent his entire life creating these elixirs of death and destruction.” [https://archive.org/details/dr.-robert-malone-dark-vaccine-wizard]

      Criminal huge vaccine profiteers such as Malone [https://archive.ph/e1yMe] or psychopath “Dr” Bill Gates have been working together in the past to increase their wealth from vaccines [https://rumble.com/v2fbyxo-home-malone-with-george-webb.html].

      If you have been injected with Covid jabs/bioweapons and are concerned, then verify what batch number you were injected with at https://tinyurl.com/ytthwrwm

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